everyone's favorite uncle that lives in oregon that no one ever sees. a group of atheists have ruined christmas by forcing the removal of... i need a classic christmas symbol. (laughing) dam it, brian, we're trying to do something here. go sit in the car. >> a nativity scene jon: thank you, nativity scene. some people are still grown-ups over there. okay. all right. so we're done. let's see if we can put that altogether, shall we >> athee i haves seemed to have ended a 60-year-old christmas tradition in santa monica california >> a federal judge backing sapt a monica's decision to no longer allow nativity scenes at a public park >> jon: oh, my god, that is such an out... (snoring). christmas has become a rote observance. devoid of all its original spiritual meaning. even if it's most ardent opponents have seen doubt creep? >> a lot of people, for whatever reason, will look at this interview today and they'll say, gretchen carlson and doreen costa are nuts. okay. they're so nuts because they think that there's this made-up war on christmas. we're not new